# Reply to 'The three-box paradox revisited' by T Ravon and L Vaidman

@article{Kirkpatrick2007ReplyT, title={Reply to 'The three-box paradox revisited' by T Ravon and L Vaidman}, author={K. Kirkpatrick}, journal={Journal of Physics A}, year={2007}, volume={40}, pages={2883-2890} }

I reply to Ravon and Vaidman's criticism (2007 J. Phys. A: Math. Theor. 40 2873 (this issue)) of my classical implementation of a three-box system as a card-game.

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Quantum three box paradox is a prototypical example of some bizarre predictions for intermediate measurements made on preand post-selected systems. Although in principle those effects can be… Expand

Measurements, disturbances and the quantum three box paradox

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Abstract A quantum pre- and post-selection paradox involves making measurements at two separate times on a quantum system, and making inferences about the state of the system at an intermediate time,… Expand

The Two-State Vector Formalism: An Updated Review

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The two-state vector formalism of quantum mechanics is a time-symmetrized approach to standard quantum theory particularly helpful for the analysis of experiments performed on preand post-selected… Expand

The rule of conditional probability is valid in quantum theory [Comment on Gelman & Yao's "Holes in Bayesian statistics"]

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In a recent manuscript, Gelman & Yao (2020) claim that "the usual rules of conditional probability fail in the quantum realm" and that "probability theory isn't true (quantum physics)" and purport to… Expand

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